[Computer-go] News on Tromp-Cook ?

Michael Williams michaelwilliams75 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 1 18:13:12 PST 2011


Usually "AMAF" refers to an engine that does not build a tree.


On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Aja <ajahuang at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> Thanks a lot. The state-of-the-art part of Compuetr Go in my thesis will be
> more accurate. Do you mean the whole MCTS scheme combined with UCB formula
> proposed by Mogo is completely inspried by Levente's work? If I understand
> Remi's paper correctly, Remi can change Crazy Stone's MCTS to Mogo's one by
> 10 mins work (including just change the selection formula to UCB)...
>
> Aja
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik van der Werf"
> <erikvanderwerf at gmail.com>
> To: <computer-go at dvandva.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] News on Tromp-Cook ?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Nowakowski <jeff at dilacero.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> In Computer Olympiad 2007, Steenvreter was gold medal on 9x9.
>
> ...
>>
>> Obviously it was following MoGo's lead with UCT (the tournament was held
>> in
>> June 2007, well after the remarkable success of MoGo). I don't mean to
>> discredit Steenvreter, CrazyStone, or any other program. I'm just focusing
>> on MoGo so much because it set the bar so high and got everybody chasing
>> it.
>
> Not exactly; I already knew UCT before MoGo even existed. Levente's
> ecml paper was not the first one on UCT. He had already submitted
> other work (*) where he specifically applied UCT to the domain of
> computer games. At the time I was even considering to add UCT to Magog
> and have a nice reunion at the 2006 Olympiad in Turin (my former
> colleagues Levente Kocsis and Mark Winands were also co-authors of
> Magog). Unfortunately then some conference organizer screwed up...
>
>
>>> Mogo's biggest contributions, so far, in my view, are
>>> 1.Applied UCT to computer Go, and such application came from the idea
>>> "MCTS" that proposed in 2006 by Remi Coulom.
>
> No, it came directly from Levente. Several people got access to his
> paper around the same time as Remi's paper. It is more like they
> independently proposed similar ideas.
>
> Erik
>
>
> * "Improved Monte-Carlo Search" by Levente Kocsis, Csaba Szepesvári
> and Jan Willemson
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