[Computer-go] Beta-testing: feedback to bot owners

[Don Dailey]

A fair way to deal with komi doesn't require even knowing what is correct,
 just play games in pairs.   You get white and black against all players you
are paired with.    Of course that would probably require a change to the
server - and it would double the lengths of the tournaments.

Don


On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Nick Wedd <nick at maproom.co.uk> wrote:

> I first thought of using 7 komi for kgs 9x9 bot tournaments during a
> discussion with Olivier Teytaud.  He is planning to hold the 13x13 and 19x19
> Computer Go events, in the EGC in Bordeaux this summer, on KGS, using its
> tournament scheduler.  He was not planning to use it for 9x9 because, as he
> wrote, "the random pairing in 9x9 is a disaster; it's clear that having
> white is better in 9x9 Go with komi 7.5, so the games might become a coin
> toss".
>
> I suggested that if 7.5 is too much, he could use 7.  I decided to test
> this, and offer the bots some practice, by running some 9x9 events with 7
> komi on KGS.  But two things have happened to make this irrelevant: Olivier
> has told me that he is not willing to use 7 komi, and the disastrous random
> pairing has been fixed - or will have been, when the current beta-test
> version of KGS is installed in place of the current version.
>
> The 9x9 beta-test tournament that I ran on Thursday shows what is likely to
> happen if one bot understands integer komi while the other does not. GNU Go
> version 3.7 and Orego12 played each other six times.  Orego is clearly the
> better player.  The three times that Orego was black, it won by 2 points.
>  The three times that Orego was white, the result was jigo.
>
> However, several people have expressed interest in a 9x9 event with integer
> komi.  If a majority of likely entrants is in favour, the next 9x9 KGS
> monthly bot tournament, on April 3rd, will use a komi of 7. Please send your
> votes "for integer komi of 7" or "against integer komi of 7" to me at
> maproom @ gmail dot com.  I will treat the votes as confidential.
>
>
> Nick
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