[Computer-go] CrazyStone in the 5-dan footsteps of Zen

[Jeff Nowakowski]

You can probably just disconnect and reconnect. Another option: I know 
the Zen author occasionally logs in as the bot and censors people who 
abuse the bot. The only problem with this method is that it's very easy 
to create a new account on KGS.

If you catch somebody rank cheating, the best thing to do is to report 
it to the admins and get all their hard work undone. I think most people 
are legit, and removing a few bad apples helps out and offers some 
discouragement.

On 01/09/2012 02:11 PM, Christian Nilsson wrote:
> Concerning _abusive_ players..
>
> After some googling I finally found a log file from kgsgtp ( I haven't
> had a bot online for years, thus googling! ). What I've been looking
> for is if the name of your opponent is shown in the logs or output of
> kgsgtp. It appears this may be the case:
>
> "FINER: Got challenge from"<insert name>", testing engine response."
>
> Of course this could have been from an old version, but if this is
> still being written to a log or output. Maybe you can use it for
> access control? Simply keep a list of players you wish to exclude and
> either resign at move 1 ( shouldn't count right? ) or if it is
> displayed before the game starts you could decline one of the settings
> making it impossible for them to start a game?
>
> Perhaps someone would be willing to have a look at their output/logs?
>
>
> /Christian Nilsson
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Don Dailey<dailey.don at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Nowakowski<jeff at dilacero.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/09/2012 11:54 AM, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course I am making this up. The point is that the assumption that
>>>> a single account is associated with exactly one human who is the same
>>>> human to play on that account. Additionally, there are those out
>>>> there in the human world who don't value rank variation near as much
>>>> as those creating bots might like or want. {smirk}
>>>
>>>
>>> First of all, you're not allowed to share an account, and if the admins
>>> find out they'll derank you just as if you had been intentionally
>>> sandbagging.
>>>
>>> Also, it's not just the bot creators that value the integrity of the rank
>>> system. As a KGS player, I report anybody when I find obvious cheating. I
>>> originally reported this player and I stand by it.
>>>
>>> Bot bashing is rampant on KGS, and there are several people on KGS who
>>> feel like they are defending the honor of humanity. My guess is that this
>>> person took it too far.
>>>
>> I think it's time that bots stand up for themselves and unite.   I can hear
>> them now,  "We refuse to be treated like second class citizens!"
>>
>> I know how you feel because I have had people disrespect my bot (and me by
>> extension) by their behavior.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> This person spent all their time playing bots, had an amazing record
>>> against CrazyStone, and resigned several games in the middle where he had a
>>> lead or good chances against the Aya bots.
>>>
>>>
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