[Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1

["Ingo Althöfer"]

Hello Jeff,

thanks for setting up the relay,
and also for posting the sgf with the comments here.

In the other "relay" (tromp vs zen19n) John made a few
comments directly after the game. I quote him here:
"N7 assumed black would respond to P4 at Q4."
"felt already lost when playing N7 [at move 48]"
"I guess L7 [at move 46; IA] was already a little desperate."

I have uploaded automatic analysis data by ManyFaces.
* MC percents at  
http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-03-percents.jpg
* Expected Territories at
http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-03-territory.jpg

Ingo.

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:25:47 -0500
> Von: Jeff Nowakowski <jeff at dilacero.org>
> An: computer-go at computer-go.org
> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1

> Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
> 
> http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf
> 
> Zen won by resignation. Series is 2-1 in Zen's favor.
> 
> I got Aja 6d and gogonuts 5d to kibitz, and participation by observer 
> count was much better, around 60 versus the 260 or so for the 
> unmoderated game.
> 
> On 01/15/2012 03:03 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
> > On 01/15/2012 10:18 AM, Michael Williams wrote:
> >> Kibitzing anything in that room is pointless for all the noise.
> >
> > For both games, I set up a clone game with moderated chat where only
> > dans could kibitz. Unfortunately, at best it only had 10% participation
> > (based on observer counts) and the strongest and most frequent
> > kibitzers, Aja and gogonuts, kept to the unmoderated game. The one
> > exception was Avidya (David Ormerod from gogameguru.com), who provided
> > excellent comments.
> >
> > I'll try and recruit the high level dans before tonight's game, and see
> > if I can get the moderated game listed on the Active Games tab next to
> > the unmoderated one. If it doesn't work out, I'll stop trying to host
> > these, as it takes some effort.
> >
> > It would be nice if this could be an automated and standard feature of
> > KGS events, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
> >
> > Here are the two dan-kibitz games:
> > http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/14/PaperTiger.sgf
> > http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/15/PaperTiger.sgf
> >
> > They are a nice way to review the games with some high-level comments.
> 
> 
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