[Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

[David Fotland]

please do not set handicaps just by passing, start with at least 6 handicap,
then pass.  If you set handicap to 6 or more the game will be free.
Otherwise kgs treats it as a rated game, without handicap and it will mess
up the raking system.  

mfgo1998 expects a 9 stone handicap then many passes to get to 29 stones.
Otherwise its own internal handicap concept will be incorrect.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Hiroshi Yamashita
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:01 AM
> To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Aya tried 6 games. Aya uses 2 cores, 10sec/move.
> I think 14 handicaps is best for Aya.
> 
> handicaps
>  5  win
> 11  win
>  9  win
> 16  loss
> 14  loss
> 14  win
> http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=ayamc
> 
> Some small problem.
> I don't know how to select B, and set 9 handicap on KgsGtp.
> So I just passed 14 times in 14 hadicaps game, but KGS set komi to 6.5,
>  and does not minus handicaps stones in final result.
> 
> My config file is like this.
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> engine=c:/go/kgs/AyaMC/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp
> verbose=f
> server.host=goserver.gokgs.com
> server.port=2379
> name=AyaMC
> password=******
> room=Computer Go
> #mode=custom
> mode=wait
> talk=Good evening.  I am a bot and do not talk.
> gameNotes=monte-carlo based Aya
> opponent=mfgo1998
> rules=chinese
> rules.boardSize=19
> rules.time=10:00+5x0:30
> reconnect=t
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hiroshi Yamashita
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Fotland" <fotland at smart-games.com>
> To: <computer-go at dvandva.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> 
> 
> mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it.  To get a big handicap,
set
> up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same
pattern
> as Martin's game.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of David Fotland
> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM
> > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> >
> > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress.  My
> > closest source is dated 7/3/1998.  I have this built into a gtp front
end
> > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the engine
is
> > not identical.  Do you still want to continue with this bet?
> >
> > David
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer"
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM
> > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> > >
> > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :)
> > >
> > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still nowadays).
> > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he likely
> > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that.
> > >
> > > ingo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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