Aircraft info for N80145

Basic Info:

• Make and Model: 1983 LA4/200EP,
• Asking Price: $60,000
• Registry: https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N80145
• Type Certificate: 1A13 https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/aadeb25a7ac1489186257c3f0066ca2a/$FILE/1A13_Rev_28.pdf
• Serial No: 1085
• Listings:
  • https://www.amphibiansplus.com/aircraft-for-sale/

Notes:

• Why does it need a new engine?
  • Has 2300 hours on it.
• How much for a new engine? $27 to $35k? rebuild for cheaper like $7 to 12k?
• Was this engine a tourbo? No.
  • A new engine would need new oil coolers govener etc..
  • Flush prop oil, new hoses etc...
  • Engine has four new cylendars because it swollowed a couple of valves.
  • Perhaps engine overhaul would be cheaper?
• Always hangard but in hot florada sun, so that may be why the radios died.
• Sale price? $65k but radios have issues, there is frame power. He probably would take $60k if you pressed him.
  • Price is $106k vref on AOPA site
• What are all the changes from the Buccaneer to the EP?
  • Prop hub has six inch extension and also cowling to match.
  • Yes you could upgrade a 4/200 to an "EP" by adding the new hub, and extending the cowling by cuting the old at the rivet line and adding the extension.
  • Can a non-EP be converted to an EP? Yes, needs the six inch hub extension and cowling.
    • Can you buy and install the EP prop parts and Cowling? Yes.
• All lakes are individually built and are different planes, definitely need to fly them to see.
• Is the hull shape different on an EP or is it just reinforced? Just reinforced.
• What is the difference between the Hull Strakes and other reinforcement techniques?
  • There was Bradway kit but it's no longer available, Lake hydro boosters are still available.
• Two main types of propellers the 72 inch Qtip which has bent over tips designed to be quieter, and the 74 inch prop which is noisier.
• Does it have a reversible prop? Nope, but you can get MT props but they are fragile.
• What mods if any does it have?
• Renegade Cargo door with indoor handle, main door stewards, Bat wings, Bigger air intake which provides more air to filter.
• Do lakes have right toe breaks? No they are Not standard, but you can get them.
• How much is flight training?
  • Shop rate $125. this is also the ground school, and CFI rate.
  • $395 wet total with instructor for the use of their plane.
  • Expected length of training is 10-15 hours if you have some aptitude, or for others it might take 20-30hr.
  • Training for a seaplane check ride is easier than becoming proficient in a lake.

Owner of this shop is wanting to upgrade to the B6 engine to reduce vibration. He mentioned a Lake engineer named Paul Fernay? Who worked on, and tested some designs.

Rough estimate of total cost:

Description	URL	Qty	Cost	Shipping	Verified?	Extended
1983 LA4/200EP N80145 estimated initial cost.
Asking Price		1	$60000.00	$0		$60,000.00
New Engine		1	$35000.00	$0		$35,000.00
		0	$0.00	$0		$0.00
		0	$0.00	$0		$0.00
		0	$0.00	$0		$0.00
		0	$0.00	$0		$0.00
		0	$0.00	$0		$0.00
	Ebay	0	$0.00	$0		$0.00
						$0.00
Subtotal:						$95,000.00

-- ClifCox - 29 Jul 2020