[Computer-go] CrazyStone in the 5-dan footsteps of Zen

[Don Dailey]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Nick Wedd <nick at maproom.co.uk> wrote:

> On 02/01/2012 21:05, Don Dailey wrote:
>
>> That's pretty awesome to maintain a 5 dan performance!
>>
>
> Maintaining a 5-dan performance certainly is impressive - but the fast
> time limit makes it somewhat less so.  Programs handle fast time limits
> better than humans do.
>

I'm glad that is finally understood.   Go back just a few years ago  on
this list where I got blasted by almost everyone  for saying the same
thing.

The idea being put forth was that computers need more time to think and
that humans are "intuitive" (which apparently means they don't need to time
to think) and extra time isn't of much use to them because they know pretty
much at a glance what to play.    Sound pretty stupid doesn't it?    I felt
like I was beating my head against the wall trying to explain how it works.


Don


>
> This sounds as if I am decrying CrazyStone's performance.  That is
> certainly not my intention.  I'll try again:
>
> A 5.4-dan performance is pretty awesome.  A 5.4-dan performance with a
> strong positive slope is even more awesome.  A 5.4-dan performance with a
> positive second derivative is unheard of!
>
> Nick
>
>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-Hirn-Verlag at gmx.de
>> <mailto:3-Hirn-Verlag at gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>>    Hello Don,
>>
>>     > What time control was used for these games or did it vary?
>>
>>    In the last few days it was 15 seconds per move, with
>>    9 byoyomi phases.
>>
>>    Ingo.
>>
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