[Computer-go] replacing dynamic komi with a scoring function

David Fotland fotland at smart-games.com
Sun Jan 8 20:13:37 PST 2012


Yes.  That's why MCTS prefers the center.  Sometimes the playouts let an
invasion work, so corner territory is not evaluated as being as secure as it
should be.  It seems easier for MCTS to kill groups in the center in the
playouts.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:03 PM
> To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] replacing dynamic komi with a scoring function
> 
> underestimation?
> 
> s.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Yamato <yamato_cg at yahoo.co.jp> wrote:
> > (2012/01/09 9:56), Jouni Valkonen wrote:
> >>
> >> There is indeed a problem with Dynamic komi with Zen. Zen often loses
> >> the handicap games if black tries to minimize the move count. Often if
> >> it is possible to bring game to small yose in around move 180 or so and
> >> if not too much behind, then Zen most likely will lose. I have played
> >> few games where Zen noted only when filling last dames that it is
losing
> >> the game by few or half points and then resign. Although, one game was
> >> that I lost by ½ points, because I accidentally defended unnecessarily
> >> instead of taking the last dame. One game was that i was about ten
> >> points behind around move 180, but then Zen played a slack small yose,
> >> and lost by 2½ points. Also good and very easy strategy against zen in
> >> handicap games is to take all the sides and give center territory to
the
> >> Zen. Zen almost always will take the center territory as too small and
> >> gives sides as too big.
> >
> >
> > I think people often confuse the evaluation problem and the dynamic komi
> > problem. A more urgent problem is the underestimation of the edge and
> > corner territory.
> >
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> > Yamato
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