[Computer-go] replacing dynamic komi with a scoring function

[steve uurtamo]

even with the joseki libraries, MCTS prefers center?

that seems to favor the idea of center actually being good.

s.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, David Fotland <fotland at smart-games.com> wrote:
> Yes.  That's why MCTS prefers the center.  Sometimes the playouts let an
> invasion work, so corner territory is not evaluated as being as secure as it
> should be.  It seems easier for MCTS to kill groups in the center in the
> playouts.
>
> David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
>> bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo
>> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:03 PM
>> To: computer-go at dvandva.org
>> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] replacing dynamic komi with a scoring function
>>
>> underestimation?
>>
>> s.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Yamato <yamato_cg at yahoo.co.jp> wrote:
>> > (2012/01/09 9:56), Jouni Valkonen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is indeed a problem with Dynamic komi with Zen. Zen often loses
>> >> the handicap games if black tries to minimize the move count. Often if
>> >> it is possible to bring game to small yose in around move 180 or so and
>> >> if not too much behind, then Zen most likely will lose. I have played
>> >> few games where Zen noted only when filling last dames that it is
> losing
>> >> the game by few or half points and then resign. Although, one game was
>> >> that I lost by ½ points, because I accidentally defended unnecessarily
>> >> instead of taking the last dame. One game was that i was about ten
>> >> points behind around move 180, but then Zen played a slack small yose,
>> >> and lost by 2½ points. Also good and very easy strategy against zen in
>> >> handicap games is to take all the sides and give center territory to
> the
>> >> Zen. Zen almost always will take the center territory as too small and
>> >> gives sides as too big.
>> >
>> >
>> > I think people often confuse the evaluation problem and the dynamic komi
>> > problem. A more urgent problem is the underestimation of the edge and
>> > corner territory.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Yamato
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