[Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

[Aja Huang]

Yes, thanks. Actually in the last try, I lost only 30 points and was having 
a chance as well. ManyFaces is not unbeatable with 29 stones. I also tried 2 
games against Minirock2 with 6 stones, 1 win 1 loss. The first game was a 
test. Minirock2 is obviously a MCTS program and it handles ladders very 
well. In the second, I killed a big group. Minirock2 also has the popular 
semeai problem. I think its playing strength is maybe around 1d.

My guess would be Minirock2 is the Japanese program blast.

Aja


From: Stefan Kaitschick
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:41 PM
To: computer-go at dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

Awesome attempt!
285 at R8 and you would have crushed it in the first try.

Stefan


On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Aja Huang <ajahuang at gmail.com> wrote:

  You should let me try. :)

  Aja


  From: David Fotland
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:45 PM
  To: computer-go at dvandva.org
  Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

  I tried 29 stones once and it crushed me J



  David



  From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org 
[mailto:computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Michael Williams
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:43 PM
  To: computer-go at dvandva.org
  Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones



  Nice.  This should be interesting...

  On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, David Fotland <fotland at smart-games.com> 
wrote:

  mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it.  To get a big handicap, 
set
  up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same 
pattern
  as Martin's game.

  Regards,


  David

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-

  > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of David Fotland
  > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM

  > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
  > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
  >
  > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress.  My
  > closest source is dated 7/3/1998.  I have this built into a gtp front 
end
  > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the engine 
is
  > not identical.  Do you still want to continue with this bet?
  >
  > David
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
  > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer"
  > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM
  > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
  > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
  > >
  > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :)
  > >
  > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still nowadays).
  > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he likely
  > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that.
  > >
  > > ingo.
  > >
  > >
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