[Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

[David Fotland]

ok, mfgo98 is back open to everyone.

 

David

 

From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org
[mailto:computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Aja Huang
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:03 PM
To: computer-go at dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

 

Yes, thanks. Actually in the last try, I lost only 30 points and was having
a chance as well. ManyFaces is not unbeatable with 29 stones. I also tried 2
games against Minirock2 with 6 stones, 1 win 1 loss. The first game was a
test. Minirock2 is obviously a MCTS program and it handles ladders very
well. In the second, I killed a big group. Minirock2 also has the popular
semeai problem. I think its playing strength is maybe around 1d.

 

My guess would be Minirock2 is the Japanese program blast.

 

Aja

 

 

From: Stefan Kaitschick <mailto:stefan.kaitschick at hamburg.de>  

Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:41 PM

To: computer-go at dvandva.org 

Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

 

Awesome attempt!
285 at R8 and you would have crushed it in the first try.

Stefan

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Aja Huang <ajahuang at gmail.com> wrote:

You should let me try. :)

 

Aja

 

 

From: David Fotland <mailto:fotland at smart-games.com>  

Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:45 PM

To: computer-go at dvandva.org 

Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

 

I tried 29 stones once and it crushed me J

 

David

 

From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org
[mailto:computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Michael Williams
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:43 PM
To: computer-go at dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

 

Nice.  This should be interesting...

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, David Fotland <fotland at smart-games.com>
wrote:

mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it.  To get a big handicap, set
up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same pattern
as Martin's game.

Regards,


David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-

> bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of David Fotland
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM

> To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
>
> The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress.  My
> closest source is dated 7/3/1998.  I have this built into a gtp front end
> now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the engine is
> not identical.  Do you still want to continue with this bet?
>
> David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer"
> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM
> > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> >
> > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :)
> >
> > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still nowadays).
> > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he likely
> > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that.
> >
> > ingo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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