[Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

[Michael Williams]

Or he requested it but a KGS admin has not set the value yet.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ds <ds2 at physik.de> wrote:

> Should be no trouble with the rating system, it seems that you did not
> register mfgo1998 as rated bot.
>
> So all games should be free.
>
> Am Sonntag, den 29.01.2012, 08:59 -0800 schrieb David Fotland:
> > please do not set handicaps just by passing, start with at least 6
> handicap,
> > then pass.  If you set handicap to 6 or more the game will be free.
> > Otherwise kgs treats it as a rated game, without handicap and it will
> mess
> > up the raking system.
> >
> > mfgo1998 expects a 9 stone handicap then many passes to get to 29 stones.
> > Otherwise its own internal handicap concept will be incorrect.
> >
> > David
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Hiroshi Yamashita
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:01 AM
> > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Aya tried 6 games. Aya uses 2 cores, 10sec/move.
> > > I think 14 handicaps is best for Aya.
> > >
> > > handicaps
> > >  5  win
> > > 11  win
> > >  9  win
> > > 16  loss
> > > 14  loss
> > > 14  win
> > > http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=ayamc
> > >
> > > Some small problem.
> > > I don't know how to select B, and set 9 handicap on KgsGtp.
> > > So I just passed 14 times in 14 hadicaps game, but KGS set komi to 6.5,
> > >  and does not minus handicaps stones in final result.
> > >
> > > My config file is like this.
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > engine=c:/go/kgs/AyaMC/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp
> > > verbose=f
> > > server.host=goserver.gokgs.com
> > > server.port=2379
> > > name=AyaMC
> > > password=******
> > > room=Computer Go
> > > #mode=custom
> > > mode=wait
> > > talk=Good evening.  I am a bot and do not talk.
> > > gameNotes=monte-carlo based Aya
> > > opponent=mfgo1998
> > > rules=chinese
> > > rules.boardSize=19
> > > rules.time=10:00+5x0:30
> > > reconnect=t
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Hiroshi Yamashita
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Fotland" <fotland at smart-games.com>
> > > To: <computer-go at dvandva.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> > >
> > >
> > > mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it.  To get a big
> handicap,
> > set
> > > up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same
> > pattern
> > > as Martin's game.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of David Fotland
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM
> > > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap
> stones
> > > >
> > > > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress.
>  My
> > > > closest source is dated 7/3/1998.  I have this built into a gtp front
> > end
> > > > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the
> engine
> > is
> > > > not identical.  Do you still want to continue with this bet?
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > > > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer"
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM
> > > > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap
> stones
> > > > >
> > > > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :)
> > > > >
> > > > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still
> nowadays).
> > > > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he
> likely
> > > > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that.
> > > > >
> > > > > ingo.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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