[Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

Sun Jan 29 21:24:33 PST 2012

I asked for it to be rated.

David

From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org
[mailto:computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Michael Williams
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:24 AM
To: computer-go at dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

Or he requested it but a KGS admin has not set the value yet.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ds <ds2 at physik.de> wrote:

Should be no trouble with the rating system, it seems that you did not
register mfgo1998 as rated bot.

So all games should be free.

Am Sonntag, den 29.01.2012, 08:59 -0800 schrieb David Fotland:

> please do not set handicaps just by passing, start with at least 6
handicap,
> then pass.  If you set handicap to 6 or more the game will be free.
> Otherwise kgs treats it as a rated game, without handicap and it will mess
> up the raking system.
>
> mfgo1998 expects a 9 stone handicap then many passes to get to 29 stones.
> Otherwise its own internal handicap concept will be incorrect.
>
> David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Hiroshi Yamashita
> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:01 AM
> > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Aya tried 6 games. Aya uses 2 cores, 10sec/move.
> > I think 14 handicaps is best for Aya.
> >
> > handicaps
> >  5  win
> > 11  win
> >  9  win
> > 16  loss
> > 14  loss
> > 14  win
> > http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=ayamc
> >
> > Some small problem.
> > I don't know how to select B, and set 9 handicap on KgsGtp.
> > So I just passed 14 times in 14 hadicaps game, but KGS set komi to 6.5,
> >  and does not minus handicaps stones in final result.
> >
> > My config file is like this.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > engine=c:/go/kgs/AyaMC/aya.exe firstargument=--mode gtp
> > verbose=f
> > server.host=goserver.gokgs.com
> > server.port=2379
> > name=AyaMC
> > password=******
> > room=Computer Go
> > #mode=custom
> > mode=wait
> > talk=Good evening.  I am a bot and do not talk.
> > gameNotes=monte-carlo based Aya
> > opponent=mfgo1998
> > rules=chinese
> > rules.boardSize=19
> > rules.time=10:00+5x0:30
> > reconnect=t
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Hiroshi Yamashita
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Fotland" <fotland at smart-games.com>
> > To: <computer-go at dvandva.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> >
> >
> > mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it.  To get a big handicap,
> set
> > up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same
> pattern
> > as Martin's game.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of David Fotland
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM
> > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
> > >
> > > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress.  My
> > > closest source is dated 7/3/1998.  I have this built into a gtp front
> end
> > > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the
engine
> is
> > > not identical.  Do you still want to continue with this bet?
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
> > > > bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer"
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM
> > > > To: computer-go at dvandva.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap
stones
> > > >
> > > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :)
> > > >
> > > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still
nowadays).
> > > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he
likely
> > > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that.
> > > >
> > > > ingo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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