[Computer-go] Those were the days ...

[David Fotland]

The old program had a fixed search, so it wouldn’t get any stronger on faster hardware.

Martin understood computer go weaknesses, so he played to exploit them.  A modern program not specifically tuned for those weaknesses would have a much more difficult time.

I released version 10 in 1997, so it might be more accurate to play against version 10 rather than against version 12 at 12 kyu level.  I probably still have a version 10 CD somewhere.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-bounces at computer-go.org] On Behalf Of
> "Ingo Althöfer"
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:07 AM
> To: computer-go at computer-go.org
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...
> 
> Hello,
> 
> >  > Remember 1998: In the US Go Congress an exhibition match  > took
> > place: 5-dan Martin Mueller against Many Faces of Go.
> >  > Martin gave 29 handicap stones - and won "handily".
> >  > 29 stones - can you believe it?
> >
> > Martin Mueller, 5d, won an H-29 game against a 1998 go-program that
> > ran run on a 1998 computer. So, in order to reproduce the playing
> > strength of the old program and get a fair comparison it should again
> > run on an old machine while the modern go-programs use today's hardware.
> > - Michael.
> 
> I discussed your point in depth with David Fotland (father of MFoG).
> Back in 1998, MFoG had long thinking time (2 hours for all) in the game.
> In the current MFoG vesion the 12-kyu level plays quickly and is - according
> to David - comparable in strength with the 1998 long thinker.
> 
> Ingo.
> 
> 
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