[Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

["Ingo Althöfer"]

Petr Baudis <pasky at ucw.cz>:
> Ingo Althofer wrote:
> > David Fotland is willing to provide the old bot - also for sparring 
> > sessions on KGS. 
> 
>   Will David also try to compete? :-)

Serious point. I did not have that in mind. 

In principle I would allow him to participate - as long as
he does not exploit the exact structure of the "pseudo-random"
generator within MF. 
Knowing David for several years now as an honorable man,
I would believe him when he gives his word on this.

>   Of course, for experiments it would be neat to have a binary of this
> version, but maybe that would make the challenge too easy (or prone to
> overtuning).

As long as MF would play randomly enough, it would remain a
difficult task.
 
>   Anyway, sounds wonderful, and Martin Mueller's play in that game is
> quite something. I'm looking forward to giving this challenge to Pachi.

I think, sophisticated "dynamic komi" will not be enough to achieve the level.
You will need some sort of opponent modelling. But future will show.

And looking over the fence: When a win at handicap 29 is achieved how much
further could strong bots go? 

33?
or 37?
or 49?

Ingo.
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